On the first day of winter break, Karen and Steve chat about the unique challenges of entertaining younger kids over the holidays when nothing is open and travel is not advised; their own memories of winter break when they were kids; and that time Steve bought six gallons of cooking oil at Costco.
They then welcome Rep. Mikie Sherrill from New Jersey's 11th District, who talks about her remarkable career as a Navy helicopter pilot; what it's like having two kids while *in* law school; why she decided to run for Congress (after having two *more* kids); and her efforts to rein in the federal government's authority to use the armed forces for domestic law enforcement.